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anonniemouse ([personal profile] anonniemouse) wrote in [community profile] tf_talk2015-04-16 10:55 am

Gloves Off

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Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
And the guy was "heavyset" and "smelled bad." Of fucking course.

My husband is heavyset and I am starting to take this stereotype that fat geek guys are always harassers really personally. Also, it's super skeevy for a thin guy (and a sexual abuser at that) to deploy that stereotype in his obvious bullshit post. Oh no, a thin good-looking guy would never harass women, never. Only fat unattractive guys harass women. Andy's small and thin and androgynous looking and ~understands~. He'll protect you, you don't have to fear him. Fear THEM over THERE, fear them constantly, and flee to him.

Ugh.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't he describe the woman he gave pity oral sex to in a Walmart parking lot as fat and smelly as well?

So at least he's an equal opportunity bodyshamer, but we knew that already, given the shit he's done to Abbey, and some of the comments he's made about Megan.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
SA

For the record, I don't believe either Avengers dude or Walmart lady exist.

BTW, here's a link to an old thread on FFA about the Walmart stuff. Wow, I kinda miss the blue lj design a bit. - http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/53491.html?thread=248917491#t248917491

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
I mean I'm sure it's happened at some point in history but the idea of anyone, especially Andy, finding some random woman at Walmart then immediately eating her out is pretty ridiculous. Sure, Andy.

What was he trying to achieve with this story? It just makes him look kind of like an asshole, tbh. Like you performed oral sex on a woman you admit you find repulsive.. Lucky her!

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
SA

I just gave oral in a WalMart parking lot to someone I could hardly stand to look who stank and oozed stuff under their gut fold and thought I was sixteen because I didn’t feel worth saying no

Oh god, it gets worse. I'm going with IT'S A LIE on this one which makes the details he added to this story really fat-shamey and extra gross.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What is it with fat shamers and gut-fold ooze? It's right up there with that stupid urban legend about the fat person who lost a [sandwich/tv remote/piece of pork] between a couple rolls of fat and wound up developing a cyst. It's so gross and completely out of touch with the actual experience of being a fat person or just HAVING A BODY, period.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

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Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know why I'm laughing so hard right now -- probably because every story he tells just gets better and better in the OH COME ON department, he's just ludicrous -- but link to the post where he tells this story?

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
I linked to an old FFA discussion that has links to the posts - http://fail-fandomanon.livejournal.com/53491.html?thread=248917491#t248917491

Here are the posts -
http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/45518493531/its-brittanys-birthday-in-three-days-and-most-of
http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/45611634874/so-you-were-just-in-walmart-with-a-carton-of
http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/45489008828/remember-when-i-said-i-had-a-big-problem-with-no

Also JFC I have been a TF nonnie for two years now, yeesh.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the links, nonnie! :)

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
YW!

I should probably add them to the Pit actually.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

DAYD ties in here as well. He wrote Neville as tall and muscled with no chubbiness at all, and Hannah Abbot (also chubby in canon) as having big boobs but otherwise being thin. Andy is just so disgusting.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah he really does have some fatphobia issues he needs to deal with; it keeps cropping up here and it's gross.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
You ain't seem nothin' yet.

WARNING: Body shaming.

http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/tagged/preach!

Andy responds to an image of an extremely thin model by asking if she's Golem's sister.

http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/15343938644/i-know-this-is-supposed-to-be-a-sexy-shot-but

Rundown of why a thin woman's appearance makes him cringe, including the fact that she's "starving" and emaciated from "inactivity". Sure, Andy.

He's also reblogged the classic REAL MEN LIKE CURVES, DOGS LIKE BONES.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
How on earth did he ever manage to convince anyone he's Mr. SJW? This just makes him look like a misogynist and an asshole. That sort of thing really doesn't go over well in most areas of tumblr; I'm surprised he wasn't called out and severely.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Er, how does he know that the woman in the second picture you linked is a white woman with a fake tan and not just... an actual brown woman? I'm confused and also really creeped out he thought it appropriate of him to dissect the appearance of random women on the internet, considering his claims of being more SJW than thou.

What he finds sexy is not something he needs to share and certainly not something he needs to use to shame women who don't conform to his tastes, regardless of whether or not those women are ~ideal~ to a majority of people.

I'm baffled that someone who claims to be a cis white male got away with this on tumblr considering others have been chased out with pitchforks for far lesser crimes.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Because she has tan lines, anon. Everyone knows only white people get tan lines.

Seriously though, he doesn't. Just like he has no clue about her "inactivity". I mean, sure, you can tell she isn't eating 10,000 calories per day and that she isn't a bodybuilder, but beyond that? He's just pulling stuff out of his ass.

I think he got away with it because he was criticizing a thin woman. It took a good long while before people starting pushing back against "thin shaming" on tumblr. It was once considered "punching up" and was pretty acceptable.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously! My immediate impression was that the photo was of a WOC.

And also that she has a perfectly normal body. I mean, look, nobody should be body shamed, but that's not a photo of an emaciated woman. That's a perfectly normal, albeit thin, body.

Seriously, seriously skeevy. And one of the few times I wish tumblr SJWs woulda jumped down somebody's throat.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Here's Andy's version of a "compassionate" post to thin women:

http://tf-talk.dreamwidth.org/600.html?thread=386904#cmt386904

Men’s tastes are as diverse as women’s, but there is still such a thing as majority, and what you’ll see appealing to that majority is stuff like this, and it ain’t no 92lbs

...

And again, your self worth really, really, really shouldn’t be defined by the male gaze. But at the same time, I just can’t stand seeing one more post outright lying to girls that the only way to make boys want them is to starve themselves into something that the vast majority of guys I know - myself included - would want only in the context of wanting to give a sandwich to.

Haha, a sandwich! Because, you know, that meme about women starving themselves needing a sandwich. Get it?

Seems like an appropriate subject for a witty ending line!

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Several of Andy's body-shaming posts were discussed by the AA blogs, including this one.

You should see the one where he calls innocent pictures of three of his female friends in wet clothes and partially undressed (I think they'd just had a food fight or something like that) "sexier than porn".

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I have seen it. Wish I hadn't.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, the dual mocking of a woman's body and eating disorders. So fucking compassionate and empathetic, our Andrew.

Dude, not every think woman is unhealthy and starving herself, just like fat women aren't all sad sacks who ooze and are just looking for any fucker to give them affection/sex.

Ugh, so gross!

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
It is completely tone-deaf as to the causes of things like anorexia or bulimia, namely a need for control and body dysphoria, not necessarily a need to be attractive to men. Since women are people and don't just live for the male gaze, and all.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
NA Absolutely. In fact, my own eating disorder was, if anything, connected to a desire to de-sexualize myself and avoid unwanted male attention. I had gone from a skinny kid who could wear shorts without being bothered to a young teenager who was suddenly a creeper magnet in the same outfits.
Obviously, this isn't the way it works for everyone, but it speaks to how little he knows about the stuff he pontificates about.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was always thin because of fast metabolism (and my work schedule unfortunately), and this post bothered me so much. I mean, putting down one body type in order to praise another is exactly what body shaming means.
(Not to sound rude, but it seems like Andy targets the women of particular body type, either because he's actually attracted to them, or because he figures that a lot of them have low self-esteem and instead of working to raise it, he makes them believe that only he can make them feel special and loved.)

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not to sound rude, but it seems like Andy targets the women of particular body type, either because he's actually attracted to them, or because he figures that a lot of them have low self-esteem and instead of working to raise it, he makes them believe that only he can make them feel special and loved.

+1

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

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