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anonniemouse ([personal profile] anonniemouse) wrote in [community profile] tf_talk2015-04-09 12:58 pm

continued Thatfucker discussion

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

tumblr user info

(Anonymous) 2015-06-22 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Human. 31. Used to be active in a lot of things on here, but both life and Tumblr have changed, so not so much anymore, though I still post stuff occasionally and my askbox is still checked once in a while. I fic at AO3 and ff.net and art on Deviantart all under "Thanfiction", but it's mostly archiving.

Index of my meta, musings, and most of my general stuff along with FAQ and importantness below. Vaguely categorized. Wildly out of date. Never updated. Best effort.


Wow, he really has stepped out of his old skin and slithered off. When did the userinfo change?

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-23 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Very recently. A couple of days ago at the most.

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Meg's weight & Andy

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to put into words why the way Andy talks about Meg's weight makes me so uncomfortable when he is so unfailingly positive. Help me out if you understand what I'm trying to say, but can phrase it better.

Meg is pretty, and fat. These are, to me, two characteristics of her. I have friends who are large and to me, I call them the same things I call my thin friends when I compliment them: pretty, cute, hot, etc. It's not that I think that the people I know manage to remain attractive in spite of being fat! It's just...

When Andy talks about Meg's body, it's always using very positive words that are inherently referring to weight, even positively. He never uses her as a model and just calls her "pretty" or something. He has to make a big deal about how she's also fat, like, she's this weird subtype of pretty to him that fat people can be, instead of a pretty person who is fat. Am I making sense?

I mean, in some of the contexts it makes a lot of sense to me, or would if it wasn't Andy. It can be pretty subversive to use a fat model, so obviously pretending that's not a thing would be just as weird. It's just the exclusivity of his attention to her weight. Even though he's always complimenting her, he's still always reminding her of it subtly.

He does the same thing with Dom. She never just models his cosplay, he always has to make a big deal about her race. If it's not an inherently racial cosplay, like the steampunk shoot, he posts about how dangerous it was to do a shoot with a steampunk prop gun because of her race, or how happy he is that he could do her hair days ahead of time because she has natural hair. Again, I think it would be weird to act like she wasn't a black model at all, but his comments on photos he takes of her focus very heavily on her race.

I feel like when he does art/photography/cosplay with them, he doesn't view them as models he works with, he just views them as fat and black.

I hope I'm making sense.

Please tell me if I was insensitive at all here. I'm not black, and I have thin privilege, and I'm trying to handle this subject appropriately, and will happily correct myself if I phrased anything in an offensive way!

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OP again. I was just rereading this for typos and I guess I think I figured out how to articulate what I was trying to say.

I think it's almost like, he wants to say Positive Things About Meg, but in his head he just looks at her and sees a fat person, so the words he chooses are colored by that?

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GISHWHES 15

(Anonymous) 2015-07-07 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Just saw a post on bleedingcool that the 7th annual GISHWHES will start August 1... any rumblings of TF participating?

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Yes, it looks like he is signing on with a "Team Costastrophe"

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Andy in Viva La Cosplay Trailer

(Anonymous) 2015-07-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
A trailer for season two is out, with Andy appearing at 0:59 and looking/sounding unsurprisingly overdramatic as he discusses his craft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtzMtVxDb2U

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I'm sorry, but that just looks terrible.

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Watch out Otakon Andy's packing for you!

(Anonymous) 2015-07-28 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
He posted this

https://www.facebook.com/andybcosplay/photos/a.399675706851075.1073741837.396581750493804/493921167426528/?type=1&theater

He's getting ready to go to the convention and WOW everyone.

Any Nonnie going?

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-28 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
In our time machines? He was packing a week ago; it happened this past weekend.

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-10 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"GREAT NEWS! Although the costume pieces are still for sale and I'm still taking small commissions (though only after Awesomecon now) the financial scare turned out to be a false alarm. When I was checking to see if I could delay the big bad bill, turns out I don't owe it at all, so I'm ok!"

Ha. Dodged another financial crisis at the end of May, I see.

Just once I'd like to see him do something that isn't a rerun of stuff he ALWAYS DOES.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-11 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of tired old chestnuts makes me wonder if he'll pseudocide his thanfiction id.

Insincere cosplay concerns

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
A while ago Andy posted this http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/118117615522/i-know-its-generally-frowned-upon-to-mimic , asking for advice on cosplaying "disabled characters". One of the characters he mentioned was Tyrion Lannister, his question being whether it would be offensive for someone cosplaying Tyrion to "make themselves look smaller/proportioned differently".

Some time later he posted this http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/123997946782/im-part-of-an-american-horror-story-freakshow showing off the doll he customised to look like Ma Petite from American Horror Story. The doll was to be carried by Andy's friend who was cosplaying Amazon Eve.

I find it interesting that Andy was supposedly concerned enough about the appropriateness of cosplaying Tyrion that he asked for advice but felt totally comfortable and confident about turning Ma Petite into a prop. I'm sure Ma Petite being a woman of colour was a major contributing factor in Andy's double standard.

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Thanfiction's "concern", and asking for advice on cosplaying disabled characters is a SJW smokescreen. Thanfiction's sycophants are going to tell exactly what wants to be heard: that it's okay as long as the costume is respectfully done and comes from a position of honoring the character.

That way Thanfiction has written record that advice was sought and the cosplay was cleared by the masses, so if there's any backlash later, can just point to that and blame the advice-givers for giving bad advice.

Thanfiction will do what thanfiction wants to do, questionable, offensive, skeevy or not. Thanfiction will then take credit for any kudos for the portrayal, or shift blame to others for any criticism.

It's another form of manipulation, and it's win-win for Thanfiction either way. ("Thanks! It was a sensitive, honoring cosplay, wasn't it? See my madd skillz?") ("I'm a victim! I was just trying to learn and I was given bad advice that caused offense because I'm just such a cosplay innocent! I'm a victim, I was hurt because I've inadvertently caused offense, OH SO SAD, PITY ME!")

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So any Dragon Con sightings?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-11 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I was there but then so were a couple 1000 other people. I don't think I saw him but then lots of people and costumes.

Winjennster's comment on the "Supernatural" film

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
http://winjennster.tumblr.com/post/129516914849/frankly-this-whole-spn-movie-thing-is-starting-to#notes

I don't know much about the plans for a "Supernatural" film, but what I have seen seem to indicate it's a complete clusterfuck in the making, but Jenn's comment about it made me laugh out loud!

(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
The first episode of viva la cosplay season two is out. He has a very long segment in it. https://youtu.be/yf0HmuuZgN8 His segment starts about 28 mins in.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow.

It's really disorienting to hear the Hoarders show music during this.

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Viva La Cosplay S. 2, ep. 2

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seq0WG6iUOA

thanfiction's segment starts at 18:03, where fingerprints of white acrylic paint are daubed on as "sweat stains" to the Viserys costume.

Viva La Cosplay S. 2, ep. 3

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm-lE9lqIIQ

thanfiction's segment starts at 7:05.

Wearing a DAYD t-shirt! Return of the Tortured Artistic Genius tousled hair! OMG, up for 50 hours working on foam armor! 'Cuz the "friend" with the forge can't turn the car full of drink cans into armor! Hey kids, watch while I make an elbow guard!

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You know, I get that a lot of things are in the eye of the beholder, but having heard so much about how fun and charismatic Andy is at first, I've got to say I don't see it. Maybe it's because I know about how he really is, but what I'm getting is a guy who's carefully but badly portraying an image. It's all so rehearsed and unrealistic and he just comes across as a headache waiting to happen.

Also, his friend with the forge! Or your mom, the renowned metal worker?

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His Facebook is just like his Tumblr

(Anonymous) 2015-10-14 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm talking about his Andrew Blake/thanfiction FB (https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction), not his Andy B. Cosplay one. Why does he even have the second one, considering that he mostly posts about cosplay on his main one anyway?

Just like on his Tumblr, you'll find:

- SJ PSAs every few posts (latest one to date: https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction/posts/992060624149046 , which informs you that "Saying someone is "attractive/smart/funny/articulate/etc for someone of their race/size/disability/etc" isn't saying something good about them, it's saying something ugly about yourself. ‪#‎sorryforthespam‬ ‪#‎sittingnearassholes‬ ‪#‎notgonnastartafightoncampus‬")

- The constant creepy selfies (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=992552424099866&set=a.194317297256720.42052.100000353536482&type=3&permPage=1)

- The good old "fat girls are beautiful" usual bait (https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction/posts/992057300816045 : "When people say "fat girls are ugly" there is a strong temptation to whip out my Facebook feed and burn their ignorant eyes out with the supernova beauty of some of the ladies I follow who are only size 2 as a first digit or followed by X.")

- The usual Almost Possible But Most Likely Completely Invented anecdotes (https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction/posts/992031887485253 : "After discussing my cosplay with someone at school I have found there are people who literally believe it is more unrealistic to have more than one gay couple in a cast of over 1000 characters than it is to have dragons and murdersmoke babies. Wow.")

- The constant reminders that he's a manly (read: cis) man. (https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction/posts/991990200822755 : "Sometimes I think it's harder for men to use contouring makeup to cosplay because there's a greater expectation to make it look like we're bare-faced.") He keeps mentioning his beard in particular, which is quite telling, both because said beard didn't even exist two years ago, and because a cis man his age would have long learned to deal with the problems he mentions, and so wouldn't think of mentioning them anymore. In his desperation to state and restate that he's a cis man, he ends up accidentally outing himself as the newly-bearded trans man that he is.

- And of course, the blatant Hiding In Plain Sight: https://www.facebook.com/thanfiction/posts/991954107493031

And according to Facebook's time-stamps, he posted all of these and more within a single day.

Some of his About pages are nothing short of hilarious:

- Places he's lived: none.

- Family and relationships: none. (Meg doesn't even get a "housemate".)

- Details: none.

- Life events: none.

- The fun begins in the "Contact and basic info": he's a guy, interested in women, no problem, but then there's that:

"Religious Views
Deism
Catholic by heritage. By soul, I believe in an omnipotent, involved, personal diety, in hope, faith, courage, miracles, and that in the end, everyone is your neighbor to be loved more than yourself.

Political Views
Independent
When in doubt, err on the side of compassion."

I'm guessing that last line is for other people to apply to him?

- But the very best is the "Work and Education" page. Remember that he couldn't be bothered to list any friend or family member, not even Meg or Cfc, nor any place he's lived, but he took the time to list all of the following:

"Work

Busch Gardens : Costume Technician · Williamsburg, Virginia
Storm Mountain Center, Rapid City, South Dakota
Novelist
as Street Artist
Street Performance
Starbucks Coffee
Telemarketing
Freelance Graphic Designer
Freelance Makeup Artist
Crabtree & Evelyn US and Canada
Door to Door Salesman
Walmart
by George Catering
Knickerbockers Catering
Production Assistant
Eddie Bauer, Williamsburg, Virginia
Nightclub Promotion
Freelance Writing
Child Care Provider
landscaping
Floral Designer
Freelance Costumer
Personal Chef
Personal Assistant
Newspaper Delivery
Richmond Times-Dispatch
Organic Farming
The Yankee Candle Company, Williamsburg, Virginia
Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

Education

Thomas Nelson Community College, Hampton, Virginia
Currently attending with plans to transfer to VCU"

I notice he forgot "cult founding and leading".

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That is a LONG list of jobs. Or "jobs", which stuff like Organic Farming (a garden) or Novelist (fanfic writer) fall under. He does not understand that having that such a huge number of jobs does not say anything good to people. More like: this person can't stick with anything for any given length of time, and also thinks quantity > quality. It looks like the kind of thing teenagers applying for colleges do, padding out their afterschool activity list.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-14 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Or someone (like me) told him his default setting had changed to public because I know he prefers to keep it to friends only, and asked him how long it had been since he read or updated his profile. And yes, I do keep an eye on this and a few other pages, mostly because of the history of things from the wank winding up dragging in people like Meg. When you stick to research and fact checking, you really do provide a lot of valuable information, but you make yourselves look ridiculous when you start extrapolating.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-14 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit.

"I know he prefers to keep it to friends only"

You really expect anyone here to believe this? Andy Blake LOVES being as public as possible. If he didn't, he wouldn't have volunteered to be on Viva La Cosplay, for example. Also, among the things which are now "friends" only, there were things like:

- an *open* invitation for a potluck lunch at some upcoming cosplay meeting, which *he encouraged anyone he hadn't already tagged to share*. That instruction makes no sense if he thought the post was locked in the first place.

- SJ PSAs which were obviously not aimed at his friends

- a post saying "I will not block you, I will just ignore you". Are you saying this one was meant for his friends?

By the very nature of their content, all these posts can only make sense if they were meant to be public. Some of them make *no* sense as friends-only. So I call bullshit on that pathetic excuse.

There IS however a circumstance in which he indeed prefers to keep things friends-only: that's when he's building up a new cult. Then yes, at those times, everything has to remain "within the group". By locking his FB, he's effectively preventing onlookers from possibly noticing alarming signs that he's building up unhealthy relationships with one or more people. So much for being willing to prove that he's completely harmless now!

"the history of things from the wank winding up dragging in people like Meg"

Bullshit. Meg was never dragged into anything she didn't *choose* to enter. Every single time she participated in some wank or other, it was out of her own free will - or so she said anyway. Were there asshole anons *trying* to get her to jump in? Yes. But did she jump? Only when she chose to. Never because she was somehow forced by the wankers. How could anyone even "drag" her into it against her will anyway? This goes for everyone else as well: Jenn for example masterfully demonstrated that she, and only she, was in control of if, when, how, for how long, and on what topics, she might participate in "the wank". The only people who ever got "dragged" into anything were people who *wanted* to participate in the first place.

"When you stick to research and fact checking, you really do provide a lot of valuable information, but you make yourselves look ridiculous when you start extrapolating."

Ah yes, the sugar coating on top of the shit cake, to make it look like you're some kind of impartial third party or something. Except it doesn't work, because you say so yourself: "when we stick to research and fact-checking". Well, guess why I checked his FB in the first place, and shared some of the stuff I found there? Did you fail to notice how I only copy-pasted his own posts (ie. facts) ? I didn't engage in extrapolation or speculation. I only reported what I found. So why did you feel the need to run to him anyway, if he has nothing to hide this time?

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Is there new Viva la Cosplay? I can't bring myself to watch it, but I'm a sucker for rubbernecking here.

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Free Range Kids

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-01 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
What about asking or warning the blogger that we have concerns about the writer of that piece. She's got a good reputation. If it's a coincidence she could clear it up, but if it is actually thanfiction Andrew Blake, she wouldn't want to be publishing one of his fabrications.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-01 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Bad idea in my opinion.

First, we have no actual, tangible proof. If we're wrong and that older Andrew Blake really exists, then we would be smearing his character by insinuating he's really Thanfiction in disguise.

Second, the blogger has a reputation, but whether it's a good one or not is in the eye of the beholder. She's been called the "World's Worst Mom", after all.

Third, we know how people tend to react when we try to explain to them just how toxic and dangerous Thanfiction is. It never works.

And last but not least: I can't see how it really matters as long as it's only this one article she published. Yes, it's probably fake, but so what? It's most likely neither the first nor the last fake email letter she's unknowingly published.

What I'm much more concerned about is how and why he got to send her that email in the first place. She's obviously never met him, and she doesn't know him in RL, so how did they get to a point where he would send her such a mail?

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Episode 6 of Viva la Cosplay

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I admit I skimmed through it, but is Andy missing altogether from this one?

Re: Episode 6 of Viva la Cosplay

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're right. I wonder if he'll have a longer segment next episode (the segments seem longer in this one) or if they just couldn't spend any more screen time on his elbow guards

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-12 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
http://epicstream.com/features/5-Incredible-Sagas-of-Fandom-Scams-and-Deception

Viva la Cosplay episode 8

(Anonymous) 2015-11-13 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEGWLuMQGA Andy shows up at 7:20. Whatever else there is to say about him, he's not hard on the eyes.

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DA
^To each their own, I guess. Though I will say that he seemed more likable in this video compared with the others. He still comes across as kind of rehearsed, but less frustrated and whiny.
Summary for people who don't want to watch it. We're back in the basement, back to wearing a DAYD shirt. He describes a bunch of armor updates he made off camera, after his costume got water-damaged at DragonCon. New chainmail, new breastplate, some kind of chain-mail undershirt.
I guess it's not surprising that this is how it would be-- 7 episodes of elbow guards, then sudden massive changes that all happen off camera.

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viva la cosplay episode 9

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZBRrWJoswU
Andy's section starts at 10:12, lasts about two minutes. Not very interesting. He talks about a costume he's working on for his theater job, and how he thinks cosplay requires more detail.

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Why the hell does he look so different to me here? The voice is the same, and the headtilt and hand gestures, but his face looks really odd to me. Either that or I've blessedly forgotten what he looks like.

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-22 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
I guess he's a judge of a costume contest at VA comic con this weekend. I'd be pissed if I lost and found out he was one of the judges.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Which one so I can avoid it

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-29 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
...his acceptance letter for his art course at university.

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An important detail - it's an acceptance into the Theatre Department. Not a Visual Arts department. So my money is on costume design. Which actually makes some sense.

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Theatre? WTF??? Noooo...

(Anonymous) 2015-11-30 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you serious that he's actually going back to school to major in Theatre? Yeah, that worked out sooo well the last time!

I had a sorority sis in college who was a Theatre major. She was very level-headed herself, but she would tell us stories of how older guys (in this case, juniors/seniors) preying on the underclassmen.

Of course, TF would never engage in such behavior, would he now....

Jeez, I need a shower. And a stiff drink. And several Vicodin :)

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The Theatre major I knew back in the day seemed to be hands down the most overworked person in the dorm. (And I lived in the Honors dorm, so it was a stiff competition.) I swear, that poor girl never SLEPT.

Ech. Not a good environment for someone like Andy, who takes advantage of people's exhaustion.

"Cradle to Grave"

(Anonymous) 2015-12-09 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Remember Thanfiction's "Cradle to Grave" poster? (It's here: http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/98028476742/in-sociology-this-weeks-module-is-on-propaganda)

I just realized what it reminds me of: https://www.facebook.com/covenanthousetoronto

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