continued Thatfucker discussion

[anonniemouse]

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

Comments

Re: DIscussion of Facebook messages: Carlanime/Necromommycon and Andy

[(Anonymous)]

I share your concerns that people pick apart his gender in ways that would be seriously uncool were he anyone else. I don't know how you mediate those two concerns.

The answer is in the question. Andy isn't "anyone else", and because he has used gender identity/claims of rape and sexual abuse/claims about mental illness to hurt and abuse other people -- and just as importantly, to hide the fact that he has hurt and abused people -- he doesn't automatically get the benefit of the doubt anymore. Peter has cried wolf too many times, and other people's safety is at stake.

The fact that Andy is both dealing with a sensitive issue and using that sensitive issue to his advantage means that we probably can't have this discussion without stepping on some toes.

Andy has used his gender identity to cover up his past and his abuse of others. When criminals use a car to drive drunk (for example) they may lose their license because they've put other people in danger. To take away the license of someone who had committed no crime (or a crime unrelated to driving) would be a violation of their rights. That doesn't mean taking away someone's license is a violation of the rights in every case ever, like -- for example -- when it's been proven they've used it to place others at risk.