This is incorrect. Andy has claimed a trans identity in the past, and then jettisoned it when he decided to start over and deny any connection to Amy Player's activities.
I'm going to have to call for evidence here, because I am not aware of ANY time when Andy claimed a trans identity. He was already calling himself a cis man back when he was still Jordan Wood living with Abbey, making her write about his very real penis which she held every day.
The statement I took issue with is that "We cannot know for sure Andy isn't a woman lying about being a man. Only Andy knows this."
But this statement was NEVER made in this entire thread! I'm serious: link me to the comment where this statement is made.
Whether that poster intended it or not, this is wank bait, and any reasonable person accepts that Andy's gender identity is male at this point.
It's only wank-bait *in your head*, precisely because as I keep repeating and you explain here, EVERYONE accepts that Andy is trans (except Andy himself). YOU are the one who saw someone mentioning his being trans and jumped to "WANK BAIT!" when there was no such thing.
To harp on about how we can never really be sure if this is true
But. Nobody. Is. Doing. This. In. This. Thread. Dammit!
His male identity is distinct from his claims of being cisgender/not trans, which are A) easily disproven, and B) nonsensical.
How can his male identity be distinct from his trans status when his male identity is BORN from the fact that he's trans in the first place?? He wouldn't be male if he weren't trans, and he's trans because he's male. The two go together. You can't argue that we should take his word regarding one thing but dismiss it regarding the other. Either we fully take him at his word, and we accept that he's a cis man, or we fully distrust his word and judge for ourselves what he is. I'm definitely doing the latter: I don't believe a single word of what he says. Instead, I look at what he repeatedly does, and make my own mind up from there. And what he repeatedly does is act like a trans man, so I conclude on my own that he must be a trans man. I hope it's the same for you and everyone else, because believing *anything* he says simply because he says it is even more than stupid: it's dangerous.
Re: Self-Loathing as an Art Form
I'm going to have to call for evidence here, because I am not aware of ANY time when Andy claimed a trans identity. He was already calling himself a cis man back when he was still Jordan Wood living with Abbey, making her write about his very real penis which she held every day.
The statement I took issue with is that "We cannot know for sure Andy isn't a woman lying about being a man. Only Andy knows this."
But this statement was NEVER made in this entire thread! I'm serious: link me to the comment where this statement is made.
Whether that poster intended it or not, this is wank bait, and any reasonable person accepts that Andy's gender identity is male at this point.
It's only wank-bait *in your head*, precisely because as I keep repeating and you explain here, EVERYONE accepts that Andy is trans (except Andy himself). YOU are the one who saw someone mentioning his being trans and jumped to "WANK BAIT!" when there was no such thing.
To harp on about how we can never really be sure if this is true
But. Nobody. Is. Doing. This. In. This. Thread. Dammit!
His male identity is distinct from his claims of being cisgender/not trans, which are A) easily disproven, and B) nonsensical.
How can his male identity be distinct from his trans status when his male identity is BORN from the fact that he's trans in the first place?? He wouldn't be male if he weren't trans, and he's trans because he's male. The two go together. You can't argue that we should take his word regarding one thing but dismiss it regarding the other. Either we fully take him at his word, and we accept that he's a cis man, or we fully distrust his word and judge for ourselves what he is. I'm definitely doing the latter: I don't believe a single word of what he says. Instead, I look at what he repeatedly does, and make my own mind up from there. And what he repeatedly does is act like a trans man, so I conclude on my own that he must be a trans man. I hope it's the same for you and everyone else, because believing *anything* he says simply because he says it is even more than stupid: it's dangerous.