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[anonniemouse]

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Re: ravenjeep & ptsd

[(Anonymous)]

PTSD is not an excuse for shitty behavior. It never has been and never will be.

Ravenjeep is a useful tool and victim for Blake because of this exact issue. The man has, I assume, diagnosed PTSD from his military service. In modern American society, the status of 'veteran with PTSD' has become unassailable. Anything done by a vet with that diagnosis can be waved away by their great sacrifice and all the trauma associated with their service to their country.

This does not mean that all veterans are angels who would have been perfectly good human beings if they'd never served in the military. This does not mean being a veteran is a 'get out of jail free' card for being nasty and cruel. This excuses NOTHING, except that it leaves Ravenjeep much more vulnerable to Blake's manipulation.

And before any snottiness starts, I am a veteran with a combat tour, diagnosed with PTSD. I am from a family of veterans, several with diagnosed and un-diagnosed PTSD.

I am worried and concerned for Ravenjeep, because Blake's toxic masculinity and manipulative behavior is absolutely detrimental to his health. It plays into the psycho-social conditioning and training that the military seeks to inculcate into its soldiers. It is an ugly, ugly thing, and I wish above all for the man to be free and clear of Blake.

But once again, his behavior isn't because of PTSD. It is either because it is his nature to behave that way, or he is being stirred by Blake and his own -defend my brothers- and -protect my friends- indoctrination to do so, against his own calmer inclinations. I rather think the second is true, but it helps no one to pretend that being a veteran or being diagnosed with PTSD excuses the things he has said to Molly and her friends in defense of a liar like Blake.

Re: ravenjeep & ptsd

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

where did anyone, ever, at any point, say it was an excuse?

in fact, I said it was the exact opposite.

also where did anyone get especially sentimental over vets? I am not sentimental over the military, and I'm also not american so am not subjected to that culture, though I am aware of it.

I opened this topic up as a discussion about how his behaviours might be influenced by andy, because I found it interesting and thought-provoking. not to defend him and it's absolutely ludicrous poor reading comprehension on your part if you interpreted otherwise. if you go back and read over what I originally posted, you will see that for yourself. including the part where I specified I generally feel nothing but contempt for him.