Gloves Off

[anonniemouse]

Please use this post for discussion of those contentious, murky, triggering issues too complex to discuss/moderate on the main post.

Note that this post is NOT a free-for-all and will still be modded for slurs, namecalling, doxxing and trolling. But fair warning that it will not be moderated for discussion of issues some find triggering (trans issues, mental illness, etc.) and that if you choose to participate here, you do so at your own risk.

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Re: ravenjeep & ptsd

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

You're combining my words with those of another poster. I didn't say Chris was putty in Andy's hands as a result of being fucked with psychologically in ways involving his trauma. I do think the latter suggestion is possible (and even likely) but when I said "putty in his hands" I was only referring to Chris's gullibility regarding Andy's "I'm scared and need your help" routine.

I don't think that speculating that Chris might also be a victim takes away from the known victims. Compasssion isn't a finite resource. I think the posters discussing the possibility of Chris being victimised have all stated that even if it's true it would not excuse his behaviour.

My comparison between Chris and Abbey was Only meant in regards to the perception of outsiders at the time that Abbey was not a victim. Of course there are many many differences between the two of them and their respective relationships with Andy. But I feel like what you're saying could have been said about Andy's victims back then - "Turimel is Andy's victim. Sympathy for Andy's enablers shifts focus from Turimel's suffering." Abbey, if you read this, I'm sorry if my comparison is bad and hurtful. Again, I'm not trying to compare You to Chris, I'm trying to compare the perception of you both by outsiders. If doing that (or the way I've done it) is shitty, I'm truly sorry.

Re: ravenjeep & ptsd

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, I'm cool. -KQ