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[anonniemouse]

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Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

My ex-bf was being hit on several times by drunks when he had long hair. And at least once he couldn't get the guy to fuck off even when he told him he's a guy. In the end he had to punch that perv and run away.So yeah, looks like Andy has never been seriously harrassed in real life.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

Which is really hard to believe, given all the situations Andy's been in (walking to Canada in the middle of the night, living with random people, etc). I just... I don't know how to put it without sounding like an asshole, but I can't believe that Andy was never harassed when he was presenting as a girl, nor that he's totally unaware of and unaffected by the kinds of sexual harassment androgynous looking trans men are often subject to. It speaks to an incredible level of estrangement from his own life--he's so convinced that he's this butch freedom fighter that obviously nobody would ever sexually harass him.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

Well, to me it looks like he tries to join SJ community without losing any bit of his supposed uber-masculinity. Which seems weird, as his admitting of being trans would probably get him more points than a made-up story. Then again, he fails at body positivity too.
I don't know, sometimes it looks like he's trying too hard because he wants to get caught lying. A simple story of being groped in a train, or followed on the street would work way better, but he needs it to be so much worse than usual, not to mention tied to fandom in some way.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

The fandom link is what makes me think he doesn't have much of a real life going on. He just doesn't understand that the vast majority of people do not reference fandom 24/7. I've had a few run-ins with grabby drunks, and it's,without exception, 'do you want to fuck me?' or some varient of that. Not 'would you want to fuck Thor?'

This is like the evil flip side of Chris, the fictional marine who expressed his longings for closeness via Lord of the Rings. Andy just doesn't speak anything but fandom.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

God, this. Just like he peppers his personal posts with jarring references to fandom, he's doing it here, too: in a bogus post about sexual harassment. The MCU angle was showing his ass and made the story -- even without all the "I've never understood what it's like to be treated this way!" rubbish -- completely unbelievable.

I've had a few run-ins with grabby drunks, and it's,without exception, 'do you want to fuck me?' or some varient of that. Not 'would you want to fuck Thor?'

SAME. No guy has ever approached me in this way (not that it couldn't happen ever, but this is Andy, come on) and I find it an exceedingly unlikely scenario. About as likely as a guy offering to put Linux on your computer in the middle of a train station.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

It's especially unlikely because it's Andy. A sexual abuser who uses fandom to abuse his victims is harrassed by the only drunk in the world who would also, totally randomly, use fandom as a means of harassment. We're working with miniscule levels of probability here.

He could have at least claimed that this happened in a parking lot after a late showing of the Avengers or something.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

He also claimed a small child saw him outside and said he looked just like Tonks from Harry Potter. A kid so young they still engaged in baby talk, calling him a "magamageegee" or something.

I immediately rolled my eyes at this, because it sounded exactly like the made-up Australian alter kid Abbey talked about, who called Boo a "kuki-buki" or whatever, trying to say Kookaburra.

I have a two year-old. The odds of a child that young remembering the name Tonks from either the books OR the movies is so damn unlikely.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

Oddly enough, I have an especially close friend who is Australian, and when I heard that story, I asked him if that was anything CLOSE to baby-talk for a Kookaburra.

Once he stopped laughing at me, he said no, he'd never heard any such thing. He also attempted to correct my American pronunciation of kookaburra. Then I told him about the Victoria Bitter name and history, and his single pronouncement was, "Sounds like the old girl picked a proper name, that stuff's poison."

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

Aussie nonnie here and I love VB! The beer, of course.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

:D The man is a bit of a beer and liquor snob, so I don't doubt it's not quite as bad as he paints it.

Re: Andy's "I was harassed by an Avengers fanboy" story

[(Anonymous)]

Lol...years ago, I went to a showing of Con Air on opening night--geez, how long ago was THAT?--and a gf & I were "harassed," pretty good-naturedly, by a couple of clean-cut but slightly tipsy college boys about whether we though Cusack or Cage was hotter (this theatre served both food & alcohol, so this scenario wasn't terribly uncommon.) I told them, quite honestly, that Steve Buscemi was more my type, then repeated the line about "wearing her head as a hat".... The college boys sort of drifted away. The two of us laughed all night & it's still a running joke, going on 20 years later...

Now, obviously you out there reading don't know me or my gf, so you don't actually know if it's true. But isn't it a good deal more plausible than being so aggressively harassed in a train station by a this disgusting FAAAT drunk jerk who talks about the Avengers, wants to put Linux on your 'puter, etc. BTW, the above story *is* true.

(This is OT, but I've traveled on lots of Amtrak trains & spent several years commuting daily on DC metro stations. I've got no idea what station he is referring to, but unless it was one of the smaller, "unmanned" stations, I must say employees usually keep a close watch on that stuff, esp, if they think someone is under the influence. Not that I think this story is anything but fiction, but...Rather than focus selfishly on experiencing "sexual harassment," wouldn't it have been better to notify an employee or call the police on this "drunk & disorderly," esp. since the guy was likely to do worse to the next "woman?" Really doesn't fit w. his heroic "Claymore scar" story...lol.)