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[anonniemouse]

Please use this post for discussion of those contentious, murky, triggering issues too complex to discuss/moderate on the main post.

Note that this post is NOT a free-for-all and will still be modded for slurs, namecalling, doxxing and trolling. But fair warning that it will not be moderated for discussion of issues some find triggering (trans issues, mental illness, etc.) and that if you choose to participate here, you do so at your own risk.

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Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

a trans man with a history of suicide on a drug known for suicidal ideation and 'man-boobs'

The history of suicide would be a major concern, I agree, but the 'man-boobs', not so much. Either he hasn't had top surgery, in which case he still has his female boobs anyway, or he's had a double mastectomy, in which case there are no more mammary glands to create any man-boobs to begin with. Either way, not a problem in his case - unless Seroquel can also make female boobs grow bigger? Because *that* could be a problem all right if he's still binding!

I also agree that I wouldn't expect Seroquel to be the first line of treatment for a newly diagnosed case of schizophrenia, AND that he left no room in his recovery narrative for other drugs to be tried first. None of this adds up.

Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

The cis women I know who've been on it have experienced tenderness, which I imagine could be a problem if binding.

There's also that it's generally better for negative symptoms of schizophrenia, and Andy only claims to experience the positive ones, which there are better anti-psychotics for.

Like, dude, seriously, you couldn't have looked into it a little more than picking out a random schizophrenia drug?

Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

But, if he has been diagnosed with something like Bipolar disorder, (not saying he has this, but could have been diagnosed with this since people are rarely diagnosed with something like NPD), that is a med he might have been given, yet it still fits his schizophrenia story.

Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

They'd still be giving a drug that's known to fuck with sex hormones and cause suicidal ideation to a trans man with suicide attempts in his medical history. There are other options for both schizophrenia and bipolar medication, and his timeline isn't nearly long enough for his doctors to have explored those first.

Like, I don't believe he's telling the truth, but if he is then HE NEEDS NEW DOCTORS because these ones are total fuck ups. Either they've taken him on and off other meds potentially-fatally quickly to reach seroquel so fast, or they went with a messed up choice really early on.

Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

This was my first thought as well. Who the hell knows what the truth is, but I'd believe TF was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder way before I'd believe his schizophrenia claims.

Re: Peter Pandy

[(Anonymous)]

The prolactin interference can make estrogen levels sky-rocket, which is what leads to moobs in cis men, and sky-rocketing estrogen levels wouldn't mix well with a trans man's transitioning. Like, it's a really risky choice of drug for a trans man when there are other options out there, and it's a bad choice for a person with a history of suicide attempts full-stop, and it's not even a great choice for positive schizophrenia symptoms, it's better for negative ones.

Either his care team are even shittier than previously believed, or something stinks to high heaven.