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anonniemouse ([personal profile] anonniemouse) wrote in [community profile] tf_talk2015-04-16 10:55 am

Gloves Off

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Re: So what would it take?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-19 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, way to present things as the exact opposite of what they are!

First, you prime us with a sob story about a drug-addicted ex-friend who's finally changed and apologized. But Andy has NOT changed nor apologized, so that story is entirely irrelevant. You're only mentioning it to create the illusion that the discussion around your upcoming question will be based on a common acceptance of the supposed fact that Andy has changed. Good try, but no dice.

Second, you present the situation in terms of Andy being hounded, when in fact he's abusing people. You present Andy as a victim, when he's the only aggressor.

And third, you talk as though his past was entirely divorced from his present, when in fact his present has not changed in any way from his past. His present is the exact same thing as his past, except it's happening today instead of yesterday.

To answer your question: there would be no need to warn people about Andy NOW if he wasn't being abusive NOW. So what it will take for people to stop warning other people about Andy, is for Andy to stop being abusive - forever and for good. As long as he's being abusive (and he IS being abusive, right now), he cannot - he MUST NOT - be left alone.

Re: So what would it take?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-19 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Kinda glad I'm not the only one who got a skeevy vibe from the OP.

Re: So what would it take?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-19 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Very well said.