Gloves Off

[anonniemouse]

Please use this post for discussion of those contentious, murky, triggering issues too complex to discuss/moderate on the main post.

Note that this post is NOT a free-for-all and will still be modded for slurs, namecalling, doxxing and trolling. But fair warning that it will not be moderated for discussion of issues some find triggering (trans issues, mental illness, etc.) and that if you choose to participate here, you do so at your own risk.

Comments

Re: Self-Loathing as an Art Form

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I have two sort-of-conflicting feelings about this.

1. You're right: I was factually wrong. Andy did mention a few times that he saw himself as transgender. So thank you for the correction.

2. At the risk of sounding unreasonable, I still feel like the *spirit* of my initial comment was right. To me, what Andy did is not "claiming an identity". When you admit to something only to immediately walk back on it, that's not claiming to me. When Andy spends more time and effort claiming to be cis and denying being trans, and only barely admits being trans when it can serve his interests, that's not claiming to be trans in my eyes.

I mean, just compare with how he's been claiming to have schizophrenia, and that mental illness made him abusive. There's no doubt whatsoever that he's been claiming those things, because he did it left and right and everywhere! Those things he really did claim and everyone can see it.

But being trans... No, it doesn't feel right to me to say that "he claimed a trans identity". He used it at times as an excuse to get away with things or to woobiefy himself, sure, but he never actually lived his trans identity for any length of time.

Still though, thanks for the correction!

Re: Self-Loathing as an Art Form

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I agree with you about the spirit of your comment. As I said in response to another anon, I just wanted to correct a factual error because Andy uses every tiny loophole he can to "prove" that everyone is lying and/or wrong about him.

Re: Self-Loathing as an Art Form

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I know what you mean, and you're right of course.

Though I have to admit I'd *love* to see him try to argue that my comment was a lie, just so I could ask him, "Oh, so you admit that you're trans? Just another regular trans guy?" >:D But of course he'll never do that publicly - only in private, with carefully selected targets.