"Never in the history of ever" what? That some people who used to identify as trans start to identify as cis because they view it as a medical condition that was resolved? Who here has claimed that hasn't happened?
I mean, personally I still don't see how they would qualify as cis as it's usually defined:
Cisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply cis) describe related types of gender identity where individuals' experiences of their own gender match the sex they were assigned at birth.
All of which is kind of irrelevant, because if I don't think someone's identification makes sense, that's where it ends in 99% of cases. There's no real reason for me to speculate about it or publicize it, because whether I agree or not, individual people deserve privacy.
Unless, like Andy, they are abusive predators who are known to have used their identification to mask their past abusive behavior. Not his identity as male, mind you, but as a cis man specifically who could not be responsible for VB's abuses, because that was all his sister. His evil twin sister, his real sister, whichever was more convenient.
If I was being generous to Andy, I'd consider him the equivalent of a gay man who claims he's now straight because of the saving love of Jesus or conversation therapy. In other words, I think he identifies that way because of internalized ___phobia and shame. If I'm less generous, I'd say he identifies as cis because it allows him to run his game better.
Re: DIscussion of Facebook messages: Carlanime/Necromommycon and Andy
I mean, personally I still don't see how they would qualify as cis as it's usually defined:
Cisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply cis) describe related types of gender identity where individuals' experiences of their own gender match the sex they were assigned at birth.
All of which is kind of irrelevant, because if I don't think someone's identification makes sense, that's where it ends in 99% of cases. There's no real reason for me to speculate about it or publicize it, because whether I agree or not, individual people deserve privacy.
Unless, like Andy, they are abusive predators who are known to have used their identification to mask their past abusive behavior. Not his identity as male, mind you, but as a cis man specifically who could not be responsible for VB's abuses, because that was all his sister. His evil twin sister, his real sister, whichever was more convenient.
If I was being generous to Andy, I'd consider him the equivalent of a gay man who claims he's now straight because of the saving love of Jesus or conversation therapy. In other words, I think he identifies that way because of internalized ___phobia and shame. If I'm less generous, I'd say he identifies as cis because it allows him to run his game better.