Someone wrote in [community profile] tf_talk 2015-06-22 03:36 pm (UTC)

Re: Andy B. Cosplay

I actually LOVE discussing possibilities, as long as the debate doesn't devolve into personal attacks.

Me too, anon! I've just learned to check, because sometimes I am just idly discussing possibilities, and then belatedly find out the other person is feeling upset because we're arguing.

Agreed, 100% , though it can't be just a matter of his being trans. I'm trans myself, and I know a fair number of trans people. Self-hatred for being

This is something I've OFTEN wondered about re: Andy. I only know two trans people IRL, and a handful online, but NONE of them have his...problems. And okay, some of that is because they aren't raging sociopaths who treat other people like convenient props, but aside from that dramatic difference, they just seem...happier. Better adjusted. I mean, I have heard opinions ranging from "fine with my body even if it isn't what I'd have preferred" to "hate it and want to change it," but no trans person I've ever spoken to has sounded as if they hate their whole SELF.

But Andy's self-loathing appears bottomless. Or, rather, the number of things he'll hide/lie about/present a pretend version of is all over the map. Politics; degree of attraction to people; what he really thinks of particular body types; authors he admires...I've seen him lie about all of it. It's weird.

My opinion is far more radical on this matter. I don't think Andy is EVER interested in anyone but himself, nor that he EVER has good intentions when "befriending" someone. In fact, to be blunt: I don't think he sees other people as his equal, EVER. Other people are just potential tools, pets, cattle, slaves, and so on, for him, but not Human Beings like himself.

You could well be right. I haven't seen any evidence to contradict your opinion.

And Meg, right now, right under our eyes.

This. Completely. And I think the "under our eyes" part is also crucial, though I'm struggling to articulate it. I think abusing her, in a way his critics can see but cannot prevent, gives him more satisfaction than merely making use of her would. I think it gives him a sense of power to have his detractors state, again and again, what they see going on there, but to still have the ability to convince her otherwise.

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