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Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

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Genuine question: what else would you suggest they do?

I mean at least this way they know where he is and can a least try to intervene.

NAYRT

Ultimately, if you are a homeowner you are responsible for what you allow to go on in your home. It's not just that they're providing him with unmonitored internet access, they're allowing him to host mini-conventions there and actually have one of his victims living in their home right now! This is stuff that they've said yes to.

nayrt

Well, not have let Meg move in for starters.

Also, I'm assuming they pay for his internet connection/phone bill, since he doesn't seem to have any real income of his own. They should stop that, or at least put heavy restrictions on its usage.

They really ought to install keyloggers on all his devices. They really don't seem to monitor or intervene AT ALL.

Even if they just monitored his tumblr that would be something. It's not like his accounts aren't known and/or findable, and yet it seems like he has zero accountability regarding what he posts online based on the number of baldfaced lies about his situation he gets away with.

• not allow Meg to move in
• not allow him to schedule nude photoshoots and body-painting sessions
• not allow him to host role playing parties (this is a big one given his history with the line between fandom and reality)
• generally supervise him! monitor what he's posting online! limit his internet usage, even - especially given that sleep deprivation via all-night skype parties is a manipulation tactic he's known for.

You're forgetting that he's lying and manipulating constantly. Not likely he'd frame any of those things to his parents as what they really are. I imagine he's constantly bullshitting and that they never really know what he's up to.

Uh, but they should be aware that he lies and bullshits. Stop giving them a pass at enabling him.

I suggest they have him placed somewhere would he can be supervised? Like holy shit why are you being fucking dense. If he is really so mentally ill that he cannot help but do this things and cannot tell reality from fiction and cannot help but abuse people and is really under medical care -- they could have him declared unable to make decisions for himself and have him placed in a care facility that can do things like cut off his internet if he starts lying and trying to hurt people.

Or since you know he's probably a manipulative asshole that talks up having mental illness to get out of things and his parents know he has issues, they could stop letting him have teenagers and vulnerable young people over to role-play and pretend to be other people. They could stop enabling him. They could see that he isn't changed or wanting to change and try to get him real treatment?

DA

I can say from personal experience that that first option is pretty much impossible in the US these days. There really isn't anywhere that they can have him committed to for any length of time, even given their decent financial situation. Which is why our prisons/jails are the largest residential providers of mental health services these days.

I do agree with your second paragraph though.

And yet parents do it all the time.

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