continued Thatfucker discussion

[anonniemouse]

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

+1

That's what always gets me re: discussing Andy's trans identity--he doesn't actually HAVE one. He's "a straight cismale" according to him, and calling him a transman is "misgendering" him. Which, wtf?

I think when a person uses multiple identities to con and abuse people, they have lost their right to disconnect themselves from their past identities, no matter what. It's not a malicious transphobic act to point out that Andy was Amy Player and that Amy Player perpetrated fraud and abuse on other people; it's a public service.

Cis Andy

[(Anonymous)]

He's "a straight cismale" according to him, and calling him a transman is "misgendering" him. Which, wtf?

It's taking advantage of the (normally admirable) rule on tumblr to accept people's identities. Blake has always been fond of making every conversation about what he FEELS, rather than what he IS or DOES. Feelings he can constantly change and claim were misinterpreted; facts are much harder. So if he IDENTIFIES and FEELS cis, then YOU'RE the transphobe for doing anything other than smiling and nodding!

It's a rhetorical advice intended to stop people with social justice leanings from thinking critically; it lets him define the discussion. That argument wouldn't work on your classic transphobe for a hot second, because they wouldn't CARE.

It IS very hard to discuss this in a way without slipping up--which I think is what he intends, because it makes a great distraction and shuts down discussion. Part of how I ended up on the fringe of all this was because I felt as a trans person that I'd be more likely to actually be able to SAY it without getting immediately dismissed as a cis transphobe.

--LBL

Re: Cis Andy

[(Anonymous)]

Bless this post.