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anonniemouse ([personal profile] anonniemouse) wrote in [community profile] tf_talk2015-04-09 12:58 pm

continued Thatfucker discussion

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, the harassment they were (probably) committing was extortion:

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/news/fairfield/hate-extortion-lies-underlie-fairfield-murder-suicide/

In the past, Quinn had made other, more serious accusations against Eisenberg. Those accusations came after she demanded that he pay her $195,000 back in April 2010, telling him in emails that if he didn’t pay up she would cry rape and claim he committed larceny and tax fraud.

“The actions taken if such a step should be required by your noncompliance with this sole and final offer of settlement will, if deemed applicable, extend to criminal charges including but not limited to grand theft/larceny, physical assault, sexual battery, kidnap and sexual assault,” Quinn wrote in one email.

Rape & kidnapping are obviously very serious crimes. So serious that I find it odd they would use rape & kidnapping charges as a tool to convince Eisenberg to pay them large sums of money. If Brittany wasn't intimidated enough to reject the idea of charges all together, it's hard to imagine why she wouldn't want to get a rapist and kidnapper behind bars, rather than use the threat to get $100,000.

That's money that, from my reading of the documents, Brittany felt she earned by giving her ex massages and cooking dinners for him:

Quinn claimed she held more than a dozen different job titles between February 2006 and June 2009 when she left their Venus Drive home. Each job was listed with an hourly billing rate. For example, Quinn claimed she wad worked 1,200 hours as a massage therapist for Eisenberg at $13.53 per hour for a total of more than $16,000. Her 4,380 hours as a personal chef at $19.82 per hour was worth more than $86,000, she claimed.

I don't want to attribute malice to Brittany here, necessarily. It seems very possible to me that Andy convinced Brittany she was abused when she wasn't (like Abbey), convinced her to send her ex legal threats (like Abbey), or perhaps Brittany was abused and Andy exaggerated her memories of the severity of that abuse (like Diamond).

Obviously Jason murdered Brittany, so that lends credence to the idea that he was previously abuse. But it doesn't prove that he was... or if he really was abusive, it doesn't mean he was guilty of all the things Brittany accused him of in that letter.

But Brittany and Eisenberg are both dead though, so we'll never know for sure.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-16 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Other notable things:

Eisenberg did not pay. Instead, he went to Fairfield police to report possible extortion.

Quinn later filed police reports with Fairfield police and with police in Napa and Sacramento. Fairfield police deemed Quinn’s claims of domestic violence as not credible.

Judge John Ellis did not block Quinn from the house but he did order her not to harass, annoy or threaten Eisenberg.

Of course, the police and judge could all have been wrong. They're not infallible and many are biased in some way. They are, however, professionals whose job it is to sniff out deception.