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anonniemouse ([personal profile] anonniemouse) wrote in [community profile] tf_talk2015-04-09 12:58 pm

continued Thatfucker discussion

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think an identity switch is in the cards for him. His notoriety is, in some small ways, a feature and not a bug for him, in my opinion.

It means that his victims are self-selecting (the kind of person who reads about his history and gets involved with him anyway may be quite idealistic/trusting as well as vulnerable to his methods) and self-isolating (choosing to be involved with Andy in the face of warnings from friends.)

It's obvious that he can still reel people in, all he has to do is "get to them first," God help them.

I do notice that Andy's SPN con friend that he was all over SWFing has done a quiet but seemingly thorough fade-away, which fills me with relief for him.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It was interesting that Andy played the "I'm so attracted to you!" card with him, which I didn't expect.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That really sent a chill up my spine. It was so... NAKED. It went like:

1. Rhys mentions the "really hot" Kevin cosplayer
2. They become formally acquainted, then very friendly immediately after
3. Andy is so into his new friend that he's close to questioning his sexuality

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also notable that Andy lied about his history to Rhys too, on a confession post that was supposed to be about him being honest about his past and who he was.

http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/87675048472/lights-on-curtain-up-masks-off

Rhys, you are better than I deserve and I’m going to try my best now to not let you down, because you believe I can do this. And never enough fuck you for being way too in character to the point where you strutted in, flashed your massive wingspan and your blue eyes, and threw 30+ years of firm heteroallthethings into re-evaluation.

In no way, shape or form has Andy been "hetero-all-the-things" his whole life. He's previously identified as a straight woman, a bisexual woman (briefly) and a lesbian.

Now, even if you erase his former identification and just project a male identity back all those years, he would have been what? A gay man, a bisexual man, and THEN a straight man.

What Andy did to Rhys is love-bombing, and a manipulative effort to make him feel like he was the only person in Andy's life to make him reconsider his sexual orientation, which is so demonstrably false it's laughable.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm assuming -- hoping -- Rhys no longer has anything to do with him.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen Andy say anything about him in months, and I know Rhys was bombarded with warnings (and also concerned friends), so let's hope so.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, when I saw that I thought 'how quick we forget the Rare Lesbian Paladin, Andy'