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Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

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http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/49767278853/please-only-fellow-artists-click-on-this-because

Please, only fellow artists click on this because it could really, really easily be misunderstood.

I’ve been asked to do a painting for the memorial. This is not the first time I’ve done something like this, and of course I said yes.

But what his mother has asked for is just bad. She wants him painted like a little angel with a circular halo, little white robes, sandals, and little white wings. On clouds. Soft focus. With soft, rainbow-hued light. Being snuggled by this Jesus. But with “beautiful blue eyes like Kayden’s because Kayden was in his image."

And I’m doing it. Because this isn’t about me, and whatever eases her grief is beautiful. And I feel like the world’s worst, most shallow person that I’m even internally critiquing her taste in art at a time like this. But I can’t stop cringing with every stroke because it feels disrespectful, if that makes any sense whatsoever. It’s like "I’m really sorry, Baby K, your little life was already worth so much more than a greeting card from the clearance bin at a midwestern Christian stripmall dollar store.”

Is there any proof any of this is true? Because it reads like another stupid story he makes up to make himself look ~~sensitive and awesome.

I've never seen any proof of it, no. Hell, even if he posted a picture of the painting (which he hasn't), this is a guy who cut or poked a Harry Potter lightning scar into his own forehead for fan adulation. He's faked crazier things before.

What's weird is I remember seeing a baby with wings and a halo on a cloud from him once, but there was no Jesus. I assumed it was his cousin. I forgot there was supposed to be a Jesus in the picture until now.

Anyone else know the image I'm talking about?

Yeah, you're thinking of the-unasked-for pencil drawing Andy did of one of Carlanime's kids which he presented to her during the initial grooming period of their friendship. There's a pic of it on her Tumblr somewhere.

I know other anons have already answered, but yes, THAT WAS MY DAUGHTER. And it was HIS choice to draw her as an angel, too, so I don't know how he has the gall to criticise his aunt.
-Carlanime

NA - This doesn't in any way take away from what you're saying (which is that he's a lying liar who lies), but someone posted a picture of that "scar" recently, and it appeared to be a little, horizontal line that seemed like a legit scar he'd had for some time, which he had turned into a "lightning bolt" by adding two diagonal lines with the Photoshop burn tool or something similar.

For some reason that "midwestern" is really irritating me. Obviously the rest of it is awful for any number of reasons, and I'm not even from the midwest, I'm from the same state he is (a completely different part of Virginia, with two hours of driving at the absolute best between us, thankfully)! But FFS, Andy, you know as well as I do that we've got plenty of tacky crap right here. >:(

DA

Ha, I only live 30-45 minutes away from Andy. VA nonnies represent! He grew up in Williamsburg, and hell, even worked in Colonial Williamsburg and Busch Gardens and acts like "Christian dollar store strip mall" culture is something that doesn't happen in his own backyard.

I like how he asks "only fellow artists" to read this tripe, as though no artist could ever like the kind of painting the grieving mother asked for. Who does he think painted such things in the first place, that it could become something non-artists came to enjoy? And who does he think *keeps* painting such things to this day?

what his mother has asked for is just bad

I find it really strange that someone claiming to be an artist would not know that taste isn't an objective measure of quality.

And I’m doing it. Because this isn’t about me

Here comes the theme of "I'm sacrificing myself for people's dreams" again. He's an artist who's been commissioned to make art. As with every other commissioned art, it's only about him to the extent that he fulfills the client's request, and that the request doesn't get him into legal troubles. But listening to him, you'd think he's making this huge, unthinkable sacrifice.

I feel like the world’s worst, most shallow person

I wish he did, because he should, but we all know he doesn't.

It’s like "I’m really sorry, Baby K, your little life was already worth so much more than a greeting card from the clearance bin at a midwestern Christian stripmall dollar store.”

I find it rather amusing that in trying to insult the grieving mother, he's in fact insulting his own art. What makes "a greeting card from the clearance bin at a midwestern Christian stripmall dollar store" so cheap is not what it depicts; it's the fact that there are dozens of thousands of it, all mass-produced by machines and strictly identical. That's why a postcard with the Mona Lisa or any other classic painting on it is cheap, while the original paintings themselves are invaluable. Andy is devaluing his own unique, hand-made painting by comparing it to a mass-produced greeting card. Again, this is not the kind of mistake I would expect a self-proclaimed professional artist to make.

As a "fellow artist" (ugh, don't lump me in with you, Andy), it's not unusual for artists to make catty comments and value judgements, and he's pretty clearly comparing his painting to a remaindered greeting card in terms of content, not monetary value as an object. What's a giant red flag is that he's talking smack about a commission in a very public venue.

And, of course, that the commission he's soooo much better than is OF A DEAD RELATIVE FOR THEIR GRIEVING MOTHER. There are no words.

Artists painted those, but not special snowflake ~*~artistes~*~ like Andy.

You know, I'm a pro artist, but I would NEVER mock a client or their commission in a public space. Because, you know, they're paying me, and mocking the people who pay me money isn't exactly smart. To snark one who specifically commissioned you TO GRIEVE A DEAD RELATIVE is incredibly unprofessional. (Massive understatement.)

Didn't he literally draw carlanime's son as an angel?

Maybe that's the picture I saw?

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