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continued Thatfucker discussion

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

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From my admittedly poor memory:

Andy made a series of posts in which he listed people he'd flirt with but not fuck, including elderly people, trans people, and two year-old girls. Then gave an example of how he "flirted with a toddler". It got creepier (I think) when he made some statement to the effect that it meant nothing, but if things were different he might be interested in that same list of people.

If the kids were adults? If he was older? If he was attracted to trans people? I don't know what the hell he meant. It was really odd.

people he'd flirt with but not fuck, including elderly people, trans people, and two year-old girls.

Never have I been so happy to be trans!

(Seriously though why would you flirt with a two year old. I've babysat two year olds. WTF dude.)

Seriously though why would you flirt with a two year old.

Forget about "why", I'm stuck on "how". How do you flirt with a two year old?? The two year olds I know don't have even the most basic rudimentary understanding of sexual/romantic seduction necessary to engage in anything that could be called "flirting".

NA

I think it may be a regionalism? It's not an uncommon phrase in the south, to flirt with a baby, and it means when they're at the stage where they're captivated by strangers and also bashful. So maybe they're peeking at you from behind their parent and you make silly faces or whatever to make them smile.

I haven't read the post in question, I'm just saying, this seems like another example of him taking a normal thing and making it skeevy.

NAYRT I agree, I think that's a regionalism. I wouldn't use the word that way myself, but I have heard it, and in the context of "two year old" I would understand flirting to mean "putting on extra burst of charm to capture someone's attention in a non-sexual way." I have definitely also heard it used this way by and about elderly people, and have probably used it myself that way. (And I'm not a Southerner, even; there's just been some cultural creep at play.)

AYRT

Oh, I see! I wasn't aware of this use, so thank you for explaining. It's very reassuring, to me at least.

I'm from the midwest and my sister often describes my interactions with my nephew as us "flirting." What she describes as flirting is him thinking I'm cool and great so be becomes COMPLETELY FLUSTERED and excited when I look over and like, smile or wink at him. Seriously, if I look at him and smile, he'll just bury his face in his hands and giggle forever. (He's a toddler). It's perfectly harmless, and it weirded me out a little at first that my sis called it flirting, but once I realized she wasn't sexualizing our interactions it stopped bothering me.

But I also don't have a history of sexually abusing others. So yeah, I get that flirting is not intent to engage in sex and that the word can mean other things, but Andy making a point that he is not trying to have sex with two year olds makes me really uncomfortable. I don't think he's a pedophile but it feels really weird, especially considering Abbey's story about pumpkins.

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