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Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

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OP of this thread again.

http://i.imgur.com/b0jdniA.png

I wanted to post stuff about this here because I've been worried Andy is going to cons to put out feelers and possibly build up a new cult again.

"Working on a long-term budget, and considering like, actual travel for cons that are worth it. Other than the taken-for-granted VA Comicons, Tidewater Comicon, NekoCon, and Katsucon, what cons would people recommend I do next year? I'm not into anime or comic books at all, and I don't have a specific fandom that's a Must See...I'm really into it 50% for the cosplay and 50% for the community of fellow cosplayers. Specifically, I'm looking for ones that will have me going home with a huge pile of new contacts, feeling like I've learned so much and met so many people who are cool and talented and friendly."

Considering Winjennster's description of how Andy went around the SPN con aggressively recruiting people that last bolded sentence is kinda terrifying. He's there to collect new people he can manipulate and suck dry under the guise of "contacts".

Nope. Not in my sandbox.

Gonna give a heads up to some people who are big in the cosplay arena.

So he...wants to cosplay, but isn't really overwhelmingly a fan of anything, explicitly isn't interested in the things the cons he's planning to go to are about, and thinks that there's a homogenous "community" that's also going to be a great networking opportunity for him. Okay then.

(Also in my experience cosplayers are pretty big on personal safety and warning others about creepers, since the hobby necessarily involves a lot of irl contact with others. So that should go well for him.)

So he...wants to cosplay

Not even that. No matter what he says, it's clear to me that he's not interested in cosplaying for the sake of cosplaying. The way I see it, cosplay is like art to him: something he has some raw talent for, but isn't willing to actually work on, because he doesn't care about it, but only about how he can use it to impress and recruit people. He never managed to become friends with any good artist on Tumblr, and he'll equally fail to become friends with any good cosplayer at cons, because in both cases it's blatantly obvious to the truly passionate artist/cosplayer that he doesn't give a shit about the craft itself.

I wonder if his claims not to be into any particular fandom are in response to people pointing out he conflates fandom with reality a lot. So taking a meh attitude towards fandom could be an attempt to convince people of how far he's come since channelling hobbits and giving himself Harry Potter scars.

That's possible! I've seen a lot of people call for him to leave fandom. Maybe he's hoping people will see this and stop trying to raise awareness about him. Though I also suspect it's partially because his activities will be harder to track and blog about if he leaves fandom for cosplay.

I don't think that is possible.

Most good cosplayers have a love of the characters they are portraying and the media from which that they take them from.

Yes, there are exceptions but fandom and cosplay are linked.

Oh, I'm not saying it would work! I'm just suggesting it could be his intention. And , if so, it shows a pretty big lack of understanding of why people cosplay.

But again, it really makes it look like he doesn't understand how cosplay works. As the other anon said, it's pretty intrinsically connected to fandom for most people and local groups for meetups and such tend to be organized by fandom. You can't just separate the two like he seems to think you can.

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