continued Thatfucker discussion

[anonniemouse]

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

Comments

Re: Regarding Channeling

[(Anonymous)]

The victimisation is part of the appeal for him though.

That's the way with any abuser, isn't it? There's all sorts of people into all sorts of things. For instance, there are people in the S&M community who are wildly enthusiastic about being flogged, but someone who hits their partner isn't going to willingly be a part of the S&M community, because S&M requires consent and safewords and aftercare. Boundaries and the like. A physical abuser isn't looking for boundaries, and will not be satisfied with them. Psychological/emotional abusers are very much the same, just different tactics.

As Andy himself has said, ironically and creepily enough, it's not about channeling, or roleplaying, or being creative. It's about the power he wields over people.

Re: Regarding Channeling

[(Anonymous)]

actually, a lot of abusers flourish in the bdsm community, as - like any abuser - they learn how to manipulate and coerce their victims. perpetuating the myth the bdsm community is a safehaven of abuse-free, fully consensual practices is dangerous. I've been abused within the community and know many others who have too. It's a BIG problem. I'm not looking to derail so I'll leave it at that.

Re: Regarding Channeling

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Regarding Channeling

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - Didn't mean to imply BDSM is totally safe, kind of meant the exact opposite, that abusers are going to abuse regardless of the situation and because of that, I don't think there IS someone that could ever be 'someone out there who'd be willing' to go through Andy's bullshit. There are people who are willing to get flogged as part of S&M but not willing to get abused. There are people who are willing to roleplay or believe in channelling, but not those who are willingly signing up to be emotionally manipulated.