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continued Thatfucker discussion

Since we've been kicked off FFA for the week, please feel free to continue the anon discussion here. Apologies if this is a big flop - I've never made a DW community before!

The rules are vaguely the same as they are over on FFA. Please refrain from being too much of an asshole, making personal attacks, posting identifying information or engaging in transfail.

ETA: If there's information you'd like to see archived (journal/blog posts related to Andy, etc.), please dump it here and link to it from the main post for discussing.

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I dread the day agentsex discovers this place.

I kinda get the impression she's backing away from the whole thing. She's deleted her audio and interview transcripts, anyway.

Maybe she finally realized Andy was simply using her when it was convenient and ignoring her existence the rest of the time. She wasted so much time defending him and he never really seemed to give much of a damn about her? I don't recall him ever really interacting with her much in public. She ended up looking like a fool.

Idk, she commented defending him on fandom_wank, of all places, just a week ago. She had to have known what would happen there, but she did it anyway.

Sunk cost fallacy. She's invested tons of time and sunk her reputation for Andy at this point. Reject him and his lies and it was all for nothing. She'd also have to accept that she acted like an asshole to a lot of Andy's victims, and came out looking like a fool.

Personally, I think it'd be great if she pulled her head out of her ass and released all the bullshit he no doubt fed to her. But I'm not holding my breath.

Personally, I think it'd be great if she pulled her head out of her ass and released all the bullshit he no doubt fed to her.

Yeah, if she did this and just admitted she got suckered in there's a chance she could still turn it around, even fractionally. But right now? She looks like a callous asshole and a fool. Her reputation, if she ever had one, is in tatters and it was all for nothing.

I think she must like stirring because she just dropped her comment and then ran, there were no follow ups from her once the dogpiling began. It's classic trolling behaviour to drop an inflammatory comment into a place where people have a negative opinion on Andy and then just sit back to bask in all the resultant wank.

What is she even getting out of this, though? More people looking at her and thinking she's a moron? I don't understand her motivations at all.

I think she's just very, very emotionally dense.

DA

Some people just enjoy playing devil's advocate. I used to do same both online and offline when I was thirteen and it was fun, until I realised that everyone just saw me as a jerk. I hope agent will come to the same conclusion, like the other anon, I'm not holding my breath.

The fact that she calls herself a muckracker and was into "getting interviews" suggests to me she really likes playing reporter.

She's also been following Andy for what, almost three years now? Andy was gradually leaking details about his tragic woobie past and recovery for quite a while before everything blew up. I suspect she liked and respected him, and was inclined to believe what he said before she ever started digging into the matter. Maybe she didn't want to believe she could be fooled or misjudge someone so badly, either.

She also has a terrible case of can't-shut-the-hell-up-itis.

She's redcoast on fandom_wank, so she's been following his shenanigans for over a decade.

Then I'm at a total loss to explain her behavior. I assume she gets kicks from taking the edgy position that Andy is a the victim of an unjust witch hunt. Charging at windmills, that whole deal.

Apparently she's done this exact thing before, when an SPN actor (Ty Olsen? something) was accused of sexually harassing congoers. It was all "this is terrible BUT WE HAVE NO PROOF...if you have proof please contact me! because I am a reporter! and I will be unbiased! (except he totally didn't do it and you're all liars)"

http://agentsex.tumblr.com/tagged/vegascon

she's weirdly into rape apologism. I remember at one point she posted a link to a story about a man who had sex with his neighbour by pretending to be her husband - definitely rape - and she was all of the "this is a gray area" argument. she's awful.

Receipts or your trolling.

I don't think you are far off with that assumption. She seems to exist purely to get into fights with people on the Internet. I think she's a curious person with TUmblr-level education where she believes researching something on Wikipedia for thirty minutes makes her an expert.

I think her sense of rectitude makes her double down when presented with differing information, as with the Vegascon thing, with Thanfiction, with FPB, etc. Right now she's in a seemingly endless battle with people in SPN about Misha's charity work.

Wait, is she criticizing Misha because of his charity work? Or what?

I mean, I'm sure he's not perfect, but Misha seems like a pretty good dude who understands how to make his fanbase work for the good of the world.

No, she's defending him against some SPN crazies. She's not always on the wrong "side" of an argument, but her persistence it's ever-present.

He straight-up said: "she's not my friend". Didn't even bother to couch it in his usual purple-prose word-vomit.

That is actually so embarrassing for her. He has made a fool of her. Actually, she brought it on herself, but anyway -- if she was anyone else, and less of a toxic shit-stirrer, I might even feel sorry for her.

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