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Re: Andy defenders going after Abbey

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I was just thinking it's a pity that Fandom Wank and Journal Fen dissapeared. Because it was there when I first heard of Andy and his abuse, and I remember that even back then Abbey had to go and defend him (That's where the infamous "he has a very real penis" thing came from, if I remember correctly), and it would be so EASY to disprove the idea that he was a victim if it was possible to re-read those post. Because even THEN, before many of the horrible things that happened later, it was a common thread that Abbey was being manipulated by him. Sure, after the tentmoot disaster, she was considered as guilty and manipulative as him, but before that? Everyone on the outside could see the red flags. I think that one of the reasons why his defenders go back to the Abbey stuff is PRECISELY because we only have her words and our memories to back it up (And Turimel made it EASY to make it as if he was being attacked) . All the rest is easily found with google.