I think Andy was deliberately setting himself up for a thirty day stay, minimum, after which it would be much harder work to evict him - contract or no contract. Thus his overstaying his initial week, and his insistence he stay longer while the homeowner was out of town. I think 'The Sarah Saga' applies in a lot of ways, and I think the LA group dodged a bullet by getting him out so promptly.
The Sarah Saga is an internet tale of a group house that let a woman move in who believed she was a character from an RPG and generally created hell on earth for her housemates. Maybe it's true, maybe it's fiction, maybe it's a mix of both. According to the story, the owner of the house had an extremely difficult time kicking her out (and the story was never finished). It all took place in California and the more I think about this, the more it really DOES apply to Andy's situation (or could have had he not been shown the door)
I think you're right about him trying for thirty days, but I don't think the house sitting itself was his idea. Molly hasn't mentioned any pushing to that effect, instead more like she basically threw up her hands and decided to let him stay while she was gone and then she'd deal with it when she got back.
But I do think it shows again how Andy's lack of respect for boundaries works, because a decent person would have left after a week, so when he didn't follow the script, the people around him floundered on how to react. Molly rallied quickly, especially once she knew more, but it almost worked.
Thinking more on it, I don't really think he would have tried to use the thirty day limit to stay even longer; even he would know that that would burn away any scrap of goodwill that might be left in that circle of friends. But I wouldn't put it past him to use it for spin later, to put further blame on Molly.
After a certain period of time staying some place as a guest, you're generally considered a tenant by law, even if you were actually just squatting there. The length of time changes from state to state (30 days in California), but it's an occasional AirBnB horror story: http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/airbnb_guest_wont_leave_forcing_condo_owner_to_begin_eviction_proceedings?icn=most_read
Your new "landlords" aren't allowed to throw you out, legally, and will have to go through the entire eviction process as if you were a rent-paying tenant rather than Some Asshole who had overstayed their welcome.
I want to stress that I'm not saying he was actually PLANNING to do this, since TBH I don't think Andy ever has much in the way of plans. But it's something important to consider while he's carrying on about how meeeeeeeaan it was for Molly and Co. to kick him out. (As if they have a responsibility to let a slovenly rapist cult-leader(!) who has already overstayed his welcome crash on their couch another night.) There is, genuinely, very good legal reason to get an unwanted houseguest OUT.
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Re: Police reports
(Anonymous) 2018-07-01 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Police reports
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Re: Police reports
(Anonymous) 2018-07-13 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Police reports
(Anonymous) 2018-07-01 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)But I do think it shows again how Andy's lack of respect for boundaries works, because a decent person would have left after a week, so when he didn't follow the script, the people around him floundered on how to react. Molly rallied quickly, especially once she knew more, but it almost worked.
Re: Police reports
(Anonymous) 2018-07-01 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)Thinking more on it, I don't really think he would have tried to use the thirty day limit to stay even longer; even he would know that that would burn away any scrap of goodwill that might be left in that circle of friends. But I wouldn't put it past him to use it for spin later, to put further blame on Molly.
Of course, this IS all speculation, not fact.
Re: Police reports
(Anonymous) 2018-07-02 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)After a certain period of time staying some place as a guest, you're generally considered a tenant by law, even if you were actually just squatting there. The length of time changes from state to state (30 days in California), but it's an occasional AirBnB horror story: http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/airbnb_guest_wont_leave_forcing_condo_owner_to_begin_eviction_proceedings?icn=most_read
Your new "landlords" aren't allowed to throw you out, legally, and will have to go through the entire eviction process as if you were a rent-paying tenant rather than Some Asshole who had overstayed their welcome.
I want to stress that I'm not saying he was actually PLANNING to do this, since TBH I don't think Andy ever has much in the way of plans. But it's something important to consider while he's carrying on about how meeeeeeeaan it was for Molly and Co. to kick him out. (As if they have a responsibility to let a slovenly rapist cult-leader(!) who has already overstayed his welcome crash on their couch another night.) There is, genuinely, very good legal reason to get an unwanted houseguest OUT.