tf_talk | Continued Discussion (Post 2)

With more from Andy's former host in LA.

http://theteablogger.tumblr.com/post/175160579687/more-from-andys-former-host-in-la-my-fiance

Holy SHIT that menu...

The revelation that he can't even boil eggs is hilarious.

Maybe if they were artisanal boiled eggs he'd have done better?

Guinea pigs, though. Holy fucking shit, he's a sociopath.

He'd never, ever allow any harm to come to his cats, but he'll buy hand-tamed pet guinea pigs from a pet store and slaughter them without any kind of special tools or ability to prepare them in a way that spares them pain. Can you imagine what that would have been like for his hosts?

/cuddles guinea pig sitting on my lap nibbling spinach

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Which is illegal under California law, no less!

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=598b

TITLE 14. MALICIOUS MISCHIEF [594 - 625c] ( Title 14 enacted 1872. )
598b.
(a) Every person is guilty of a misdemeanor who possesses, imports into, or exports from, this state, sells, buys, gives away, or accepts any carcass or part of any carcass of any animal traditionally or commonly kept as a pet or companion with the intent of using or having another person use any part of that carcass for food.

(b) Every person is guilty of a misdemeanor who possesses, imports into, or exports from, this state, sells, buys, gives away, or accepts any animal traditionally or commonly kept as a pet or companion with the intent of killing or having another person kill that animal for the purpose of using or having another person use any part of the animal for food.

If he wanted cuy so badly, he could behave like a reasonable person and source the meat in a responsible way.

He can order it online from https://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com, which sells dressed cuy for $39.99 apiece.

He can search ethnic food stores for frozen cuy, as per this article:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-07-23/how-guinea-pig-andean-delicacy-making-its-way-dinner-plates-us

After all, according to an NPR write-up from 2016, "one United States importer based in Connecticut is importing about two tons of frozen guinea pigs into the United States each month," and even if regulatory issues mean it's somehow impossible to find in southern California, I'm certain he could arrange to have some shipped to his address in L.A.

He could even call up or visit Peruvian restaurants to see if he could get a cuy hook-up that way.

Procuring cuy through any of these options still might be a misdemeanor offense in California, but it's so much better, safer, and less sociopathic than buying a living guinea pig from a pet store and inhumanely slaughtering it yourself in your host's backyard, a thing absolutely no reputable chef would ever do.

Also, apparently peacock meat is dry and unpleasant to eat.

http://coquinaria.nl/english/peacock/peacockbook.htm

It's also available online from https://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com, which claims their peafowl are are farm raised in California and processed in State inspected plants. So clearly there are poultry farms where he could buy peackcock meat rather than trying to catch and kill one or more members of the feral populations wandering around Los Angeles!!!

A California hunting license definitely doesn't cover peafowl as a non-migratory game bird, but even if it did, with the exception of a brief window for wild turkeys in the spring, hunting season for literally every other type of bird doesn't open until August at the absolute earliest.

http://www.eregulations.com/california/hunting/waterfowl/upland-game-bird-small-game-mammal-crow-hunting/

I just can't with this guy. It is definitely possible for him to prepare his original menu in an ethical, responsible way. I can't say "completely legal" because it's unclear to me whether California is making a distinction between guinea pigs raises as pets and cuy bred for meat, but regardless, it's obviously possible to source the meat in the state without immediately running afoul of the law.

Of course, expertly prepared cuy is stringy and peacock is dry, so even if he spent a ridiculous amount of money to get his ingredients in an ethical way, his guests would probably still prefer to eat tastier items like goose or pheasant or squirrel or rabbit. But why do any of that that when you could just double down on the exotic/shock factor and go to a pet store or wander the streets of Beverly Hills with a burlap sack and a big stick?! Flavor and ethics are for unimaginative suckers.

Give the guinea pig some cuddles from me too.

Guinea pigs are an actual food source in South America, that's what they were original domesticated for. Eating one does not make one a sociopath.

...That said, wanting to buy animals from a PET STORE to eat, yeah, that's really fucked up, and possibly illegal. Certainly would get you banned from the store if the owner found out.

Anon, I know guinea pigs are descended from sandwich meat. I also know the ones sold in pet stores are not sold as food. Thanfiction's failure to know that "here's some meat from a pet store" would not horrify the fuck out of people is the sociopathic part.

Andy: I'd be doing well now if those damaged tf-anons would leave me alone.

Also Andy: Pls introduce me to the CR cast I want to feed them rodents and peacocks.

I'm sorry, like TB, I am never going to get over the decision to put pea soup with gin. Fennel, maybe, gin, no.

Did peas hurt TF when he was younger? Are peas responsible for his quote-unquote "heart condition"? Did peas turn him into a lesbian paladin? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO INNOCENT PEA SOUP.

This menu reads like he read the blog of the lady who did the food for the Hannibal show and thought that using exotic ingredients = instant class and success. Instead it just sounds terrible. (That dessert makes my teeth hurt just reading about it)

Janice Poon! Her blog was so great. I've been wondering whether he ever ventures into horror fandoms. I hate to even post this, in case it gives him ideas, but there's a widely beloved character on "The Terror" who looks rather like him. Too much of a cinnamon roll to be his usual type, but the resemblance is strong enough that I wonder whether he'd be tempted.

Something about horror might be appealing to him (in the sense of supernatural influences, the feeling of danger, and whatnot), but also would be way too obvious and also hard to play.

"I'm a character who is undeniably good and fights on the side of the right, but unfortunately suffers from Things I Can't Control which can make me dangerous" (Bucky, Castiel, etc.) = easy to play.

"I am a morally grey character who does undeniably bad things like killing and eating people" (Hannibal, anyone from The Terror) = WAY harder to snooker people with.

Not only is Hannibal harder to use to manipulate people, but the hero of that series, Will Graham, is way too damaged and morally grey to appeal to Andy. Sure, Bucky was brainwashed but he still gets to be swaggering and cool and redeemed as an action hero... Will is manipulated at every turn.

Although, I just found out the other day that there WAS a Hannibal cult! Apparently Jen, the woman who ran the FF7 house, got her claws into Hannibal fandom eventually.

Total tangent here but do tell where that is. I remember the FF7 House with a shudder.

NAYRT

FUN!:
https://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17745

AYRT

http://www.tattlecrime.org/jennifer-cornet/

The site's been there for a while but I only heard about it after Fredrick Knudson's video on the FF7 house. (Which was a decent overview, but left out a lot. I used to be LJ friends with Icarus, the person who wrote the original warning site, that's actually how I got interested in cults, and, by extension, Andy's bullshit.)

DA

I don't have trouble believing the FF7 House people showed up in another fandom, but that whoever is running that site isn't really helping their own case. Yikes.

Yeah like... I can understand that the blogger behind it thinks that any gender transitions or dysphoria the victims are having is a result of the abuse, but it might not be! And even if it was, that's not for them to decide, so all those quotation marks and general transphobia is just a real bad look and distracts from the actual issue of "is Jen abusing people" the same way genderwank about Andy becomes a smokescreen.

Whoops sorry btw I am also NAYRT

Maybe I've been spoiled by Abbey and Teablogger's meticulousness and writing skill, but the whole site is a bunch of garbled writing with more transphobia and weird anti-SJW ranting than receipts.

Whoever said that he was totally aiming this at the actors was spot on, since the player of the character whom he themed the dessert after loves donuts.

But he's totally out of fandom, you guys!

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